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Ailsa-H
#1 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:21:15 PM Quote
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Hello - I have half-written this post then erased it several times over the past few days. I've decided to post it to see if maybe anyone else has gone through anything similar and can help.

I've posted recently about having both Mum and Dad in hospital. Mum has a non-operable heart condition which, due to her age (nearly 85) and diabetes/prior stroke, will eventually lead to heart failure. She is very breathless and increasingly frail. Dad has done most of the caring, although I go after work each day and at weekends and organise on line shopping and take them to appointments when I can. They agreed last summer to have a cleaner and carer in the evening for Mum and the boys do the gardens for Dad. Dad was in hospital in Oct with enlarged liver. When Mum was taken in 10 days ago, I realised Dad was drinking.

I had no idea how much and how often, but found 3 empty litre bottles of vodka in the bin on Tuesday (bins are emptied on Thurs) and another half empty in his shed. I spoke to him about it, which was very painful for us both. It has been going on for 4 months. He said he would stop and I asked him to come to the GP with me to get help. I agreed with him not to say anything to Mum as she has just come out of hospital. At the weeknd, Mum rang an hour after I left saying she thought he was unconscious, so I went straight back with my eldest son, who knew what was going on. Dad was drunk and not in control of what he said and it was very distressing for Mum. He was having chest pains so I had to call 999 (2nd time in 5 days) and he was taken in. He was released once they realised he was drunk.

After a nightmare couple of days, I finally got him to the GP today. He has been given librium and a phone number for an alcohol advice service. I rang when we got home and of course, they wouldn't speak to me. Dad said they have said they will ring with an appointment time for tomorrow to attend a drop in centre in town. He's 82 and dosed with librium; there is no way he can get there himself, so I will have to go too. I found another empty bottle in the shed today too.

I can't begin to explain how awful it all feels. The thought of my Dad at a drop-in centre for substance abusers makes me want to cry. I've tried to look online to find advice for family but not really found much. Even if there was time and energy, Mum would not be able to attend meetings. She is distressed and confused and I don't know what to do to help. My marriage broke down as a result of my ex's alcoholism and I can't believe I am doing it all again with my Dad.

I know it isn't the sort of thing that people want to speak about. I feel guilty just putting this down. But if anyone knows of advice/reading material etc I would be very grateful. Thankfully the GP has signed me off for another 2 weeks whilst I get used to the Enbrel and over this flare, so I don't have to go back to school till after Half Term. Thankyou for listening xx Ailsa
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:29:21 PM Quote
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Oh Ailsa - I can't tell you how sad I am to hear about your poor Dad. I can't offer any advice, just want to send you a huge cyber hug.

Steve (my husband)'s Mum was an alcoholic, and we know how destructive it is. It almost finished Steve's Dad off more than once. HOWEVER, if your Dad has been drinking for just 4 months, there is every likelihood he can be helped. I know your Mum can't go with him to appointments, but does your Dad have a Social Worker? If so, maybe they could arrange for some help to take him to appointments. If not, maybe it's worth thinking about. Mother-in-Law didn't go to AA or appointments (she refused) but when she had to be left for any length of time, someone would come and sit with her. It maybe worth asking social services about this kind of help. Do you have any family members who could help out from time to time?

Please don't apolgise for sharing this with us or feel guilty. We all need to share with people who understand from time to time and everyone on here will support and encourage you through this.

Take care, keep posting and let us know how things go.

Will keep you all in our prayers

Love
Jeanxxxx
dorat
#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:35:08 PM Quote
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More hugs from me Ailsa!

I'm so sorry you are going through this with your Dad.

I can't help ,I wish I could, but if I find anything useful on the net for you I'll let you know.

Love and more hugs, Doreen xx
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:37:14 PM Quote
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Hi Ailsa,

My heart goes out to you after reading your post. You must never apologise for putting down your worries and your feelings - we`re all here to listen, and to offer our support.

I wish I had some practical advice to you, but not sure where to start. Jean has made some good suggestions, so they might be worth following up. Is there a Community Nurse at his GP practice? They might be able to point you in the right direction at least, so that you can get things off the ground. Maybe now your dad`s drinking is out in the open, it might serve as a wake-up call for him. Our surgery has a counselling service - I wonder would that help your dad? If he can talk through his problems with an objective counsellor he may find the unburdening helps.

I`m really sorry that I can`t think of the right was to help you, but please keep on posting, even if it`s just to off-load.

Take care,

Kathleen x

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#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:13:38 PM Quote
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hi Ailsa,

just wanted to say i shed a tear reading this, have been there and got the T Shirt with my " Dad " when i was a Child. he finally left us when i was 10.

it affected me for many many years afterwards.

i hope you do find a good support unit out there, and Jean has made a good suggestion.

really hope you can get help for him and in turn give you the inner peace you need.

take care and sending ((( Hugs ))) x
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:13:51 PM Quote
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hi Ailsa,

just wanted to say i shed a tear reading this, have been there and got the T Shirt with my " Dad " when i was a Child. he finally left us when i was 10, but of course it was different circumstances for me being a Child as i was.

it affected me for many many years afterwards.

i hope you do find a good support unit out there, and Jean has made a good suggestion.

really hope you can get help for him and in turn give you the inner peace you need.

take care and sending ((( Hugs ))) x
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 6:43:32 PM Quote
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Hi Ailsa,

Sorry to hear this, it is very sad. Maybe its a cry for help and a short release from everyday life because if he had been drinking for a longer time I am sure you would have noticed before.

My sister drinks far too much and has at least two bottles of wine every evening, but she is in total denial, due to other reasons we have no contact but I get a regular update on her from other family members and it has been going on for at least 15 years getting steadily worse.

I really hope you get the help you need for your dad.

Anne x

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#8 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:07:19 PM Quote
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he has got to want too stop before he can .

they lie where the drink is ?

Keep pressing try C.A.D.S as its an illness so there is a lot of help out there .
Christine
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dorat
#9 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:06:00 PM Quote
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This site looks quite helpful Ailsa.

http://www.alcoholissues...friends-alcoholics.html

Hope it helps,

Love, Doreen xx
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:27:44 PM Quote
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Oh Ailsa,

I do feel for you, drink is so destructive your poor dad must be going through hell to be in this state in the first place. I am also sending a big hug for you as it is the last thing you need to hear at the moment. Life is never simple is it, I do so hope he gets the help he really needs plus the sympathy he is needing also. I also hope your mum picks up too, as you have read my dad has been very ill too and I have been to hell and back also, so I can understand your pain.

Thinking about you at this difficult time.

Lorna xx Smile
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:30:52 PM Quote
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Hello Ailsa,

Firstly never apologise on here . It is good therapy for you to write down your thoughs.

I so feel for you and can understand why you are so stressed at the mo. Gosh
your Dad perhaps hasn't been able to cope with your Mum so turned to the bottle.
So sorry to hear this a very big worry for you.

The suggestions above I hope can be of assistance and I don't think I can
add anything else. I hope he will attend the groups

Keep posting as this will help you and you are also so important and must look
after yourself


Rose x

Ailsa-H
#12 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:35:30 AM Quote
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Thankyou all sooo much - I feel better already for just being open about what is going on. There is a social worker attached to my parents (just got a mental picture of that BigGrin - sorry!) but at the moment neither of them want to speak to her. Still waiting for the appointment with ADS, the alcohol advice service. I feel better knowing I don't have to be back at school tomorrow.

Really appreciate all your help xx Ailsa
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:28:10 PM Quote
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Hi Ailsa, sorry i can't offer anything to help, but thinking of you and hoping you feel better for getting it off your chest on here.

Bevxx
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:34:49 PM Quote
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Hi Ailsa,
Feel so sorry for you, I understand a little of what your going through and I know its heartbreaking to have a parent with a drink problem.. Hopefully this will pass with your dad as quick as it started once he gets some professional help, its a good thing youve got time off work with all thats going on you dont need added work stress. Thinking of you and try and make time for youself too. luv Cerixx
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:37:32 PM Quote
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Hi Ailsa

This is very close to my heart and I understand what you are going through. Thinking of you and hoping you are able to get all the help you need.
Take care

Lyn x
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Ailsa-H
#16 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:50:35 PM Quote
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Thankyou Doreen - the site was so useful. Thankyou all so much xx Ailsa
dorat
#17 Posted : Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:53:53 PM Quote
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Hope you can manage to persuade your Dad to get help Ailsa, and things get better for you soon.

Love, Doreen xx
Sara-R
#18 Posted : Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:37:28 AM Quote
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Hi Ailsa,
So sorry to hear about your dad. My mother was an alcoholic as far back as I can remember, it killed her at 58 and she never accepted she had a problem so there was nothing any of us could do to help. At least it seems like your dad has accepted that there's an issue which is the first step to sorting things out. I really hope you do. Having lost a parent to this dreadful addiction I feel for you, hope you get the support you need to work through this.
Take care
Sara
Ailsa-H
#19 Posted : Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:05:10 PM Quote
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Thankyou everyone for your thoughts and for sharing too. I know it isn't easy. The librium seems to be helping Dad manage. The last few days have been a bit easier. Unfortunately, the 1st appointment we could get is next Tuesday, so hope things stay settled till then. I could do with a few days without excitement! xx Ailsa
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#20 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 12:47:03 AM Quote
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Hi Ailsa,
just wanted to say thinking of you and glad you managed to get things down its not easy. nothing I can add as do not know about this problem. Just think your Dad has got to want help enough himself for anything to work for him but you are doing the right things and wish you all the best.
sue v xx
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